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Check the answers of OnePlus 8T Concept AMA! Jan 4, 2021

  1. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 4, 2021

    ZENG XI , Jan 4, 2021 :
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    Hi friends,

    Just two weeks ago, we unveiled the OnePlus 8T Concept, our exploration of dynamic CMF (Color, Material, and Finish), bringing a new layer of interactivity to smartphones. We also announced the new OnePlus Gaudi, a global R&D design team.

    I noticed some of you have questions regarding this project and would like to know more from behind the scenes. Therefore, I have invited some of my teammates to the Community for an AMA!

    @ZENG XI - OnePlus Product Manager, Head of OnePlus Gaudi Studio
    @Boris Yue - OnePlus Product Manager
    @Hayden W. - OnePlus System Engineer
    @Kevin Tao - OnePlus Product Designer

    ​

    Rules
    Starting today, we'll be collecting questions for the AMA on this thread! As the first AMA in 2021, we would like to bring you something new! This time, we will answer your questions in a video next week and demonstrate more OnePlus 8T Concept details. Because of the limited time, we will be only answering a limited number of questions. We will try our best to answer as much as we can, so bring your best questions forward!
    • Please keep your questions relevant to the OnePlus 8T concept.
    • Leave one question and tag the guests whom you want to get an answer from.
    • We will select 5 lucky users and give away the OnePlus Community Co-creation Jacket.
    • Questions will be considered on a rolling basis until the end of the AMA. We suggest getting yours in sooner rather than later.
    • Standard terms and conditions apply.

    Winner Announced​
    Congrats to the 5 lucky winners:
    @ayemei @Dhruv Kashyap @L1534107893136 @Rajat9734 @B1609822453902.
    Hope you guys like the video! See you in the next one!
     
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  2. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 5, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 5, 2021 :
    Dear OnePlusers! Recently, we established OnePlus Gaudí Studio, bringing together OnePlus designers from all over the world to create more artistic technology products. OnePlus 8T Concept is a chance to take the technology further by integrating a new kind of more natural, biologically inspired interactivity for smartphones. I hope to communicate with you about this innovative product on this AMA!
     
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  3. Boris Yue
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 5, 2021

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    Boris Yue , Jan 5, 2021 :
    Hi Everyone! I am Boris, a product manager of OnePlus. In the past few months, I participated in the design of 8T Concept's innovative interactive method, and finally brought this concept product to everyone with Xi. I look forward to your questions about this product.
     
    #72
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  4. Hayden W.
    System Engineer Staff Member Jan 5, 2021

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    Hayden W. , Jan 5, 2021 :
    Hello Everyone! This is Hayden and I'm a system engineer for OnePlus AI Research Team. In the program of 8T Concept, I participated in algorithm work related to mmWave radar, and realized the interaction of mmWave radar and ECMF. So I'll do my best to answer your questions about mmWave radar and ECMF!
     
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  5. Kevin Tao
    Product Designer Staff Member Jan 5, 2021

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    Kevin Tao , Jan 5, 2021 :
    Hello Everyone! I'm Kevin from OnePlus Innovative Industrial Design Studio. In Jan 2020, we launched the Concept One, which used electrochromic glass technology and gave the phone an "invisible camera". This time this technology can be applied to the entire battery cover. Please feel free to share your feedback, ideas or suggestions of this feature!
     
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  6. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Hi guys! Thank you for all your questions! The video will come out tomorrow evening (HKT). Stay tuned! ;) I will directly answer some of your questions here as well.
     
    #314
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  7. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    What excites me is that our current team has gathered excellent designers from all over the world. We have more possibilities to bring beautiful and practical ideas and products to OnePlus users.
     
    #316
    KaranRIyer, AbhilashSaikia, Helder_DAlmeida and 4 others like this.

  8. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    This time, we applied electrochromic technology to the entire battery cover. Of course, the ECMF battery cover and the invisible camera can exist at the same time, and we are also trying more innovative ways to apply electrochromic technology in industrial design.
     
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  9. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    The notification effect of the 8T concept is the shade change of the back cover, and we are also trying more color changes.
     
    #318
    AbhilashSaikia, Helder_DAlmeida, asishgrwl and 2 others like this.

  10. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Thanks for your questions! We probably tried more than twenty designs. For the interaction of millimeter wave radar, we also tried more than ten different gestures and color changes. You will see some of them in the video tomorrow.
     
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  11. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Good question! We have been developing electrochromic technology for a long time, and we have reason to believe that this technology will be commercialized soon. But in terms of 8T Concept, we feel that the frequency of discoloration of the back cover is relatively slow. When we want to accelerate the frequency of discoloration, it may reduce the life of the discoloration film. This is what we are not satisfied with. We must continue to solve this problem.
     
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  12. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    The product theme of 8T Concept is actually natural technology, so we draw inspiration from many natural elements. This curved design is inspired by Pamukkale in Turkey, which is a hot spring terrace with minerals.
     
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    KaranRIyer, AbhilashSaikia, Helder_DAlmeida and 3 others like this.

  13. ZENG XI
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    ZENG XI , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Good question! We have merged the two technologies of ECMF and millimeter wave radar to create a new way of interaction. The information recognized by the millimeter wave radar can be directly transmitted to the back cover of the ECMF after processing, realizing the technical value and user value of 1+1 greater than 2. The color of the back cover can be manipulated through gestures, and the breathing state monitored by the millimeter wave radar can be intuitively reflected on the back cover.

    In the near future, we can achieve more ECMF+mmWave radar scenarios. For example, in a meeting, ECMF flashes to remind us of incoming calls, we can use gesture control to hang up the call; when using the rear camera to take pictures, we can use gestures to control the shutter, and the flashing of ECMF will also remind us of the shutter status.
     
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  14. Boris Yue
    Product Manager Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    Boris Yue , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Compared to 8T, we added a ECMF battery cover and a millimeter wave radar. Of course, 8T is just a way for us to show these new technologies, because it allows us to show our innovative technologies to you faster.
     
    #324
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  15. Kevin Tao
    Product Designer Staff Member Jan 11, 2021

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    Kevin Tao , Jan 11, 2021 :
    Yes there is. From the principle of color change, we have limited choices of colors. Our engineers are also trying more and more complex color changes.
     
    #325
    AbhilashSaikia, Helder_DAlmeida, Venky61 and 2 others like this.

  16. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jan 4, 2021

    AlienEye , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @Kevin Tao.
    why did you particularly choose the curvy design? why not something like the cyborg cyan case, or something modern?
     
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  17. Yash Pratap Singh.
    Jelly Bean Jan 4, 2021

    Yash Pratap Singh. , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @Hayden W. - How do you achieve gesture controls, using a 3D Depth Sensor only or a VGA/RGB Video camera also?

    @Kevin Tao - What inspired you to create the beautiful curvy fractal like designs? Or was it based on your imagination only?

    And going a little off topic here, but I had designed this Gesture Control module some time ago for the OnePlus TV series which can be docked on the top USB C port of the TV. And after some more research and discussion with the OnePlus team I realized that it will cost around 9-10K rupees which is close to a 32 inch TV, and so this product will not be financially stable
    @ZENG XI @Boris Yue it will be great if you take a look at this and tell me any flaws in the product (not looking by monetary aspects) or improvements which can be made -
    Gesture control module.png
    (Front view)

    Gesture module side view.png
    (Side View)

    image20.png
    (Attached on the TV USB C port)​
     
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  18. ShreyasPatil_
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jan 4, 2021

    ShreyasPatil_ , via OnePlus 8T , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @Kevin Tao
    Will users be able to customise the colours which are gonna change based of notifications or calls?
    @Hayden W.
    Will the changing colours on the back gonna affect the battery life? If yes how has it been tackled?
    @Boris Yue
    How is the breathing gonna be monitored using mmWave and what is the thought process behind implementing it? Also do you have any plans to implement more bio features in upcoming research?
    @ZENG XI
    How did the OnePlus Gaudi got setup? How were the initial days of startup and how has it grown till date?
     
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  19. Dresa91
    User of the Year 2016; Most Active User 2020 Jan 4, 2021

    Dresa91 , Jan 4, 2021 :
    Hey @ZENG XI, thanks for this round of AMA:)

    Here are my questions:
    @ZENG XI - OnePlus Product Manager, Head of OnePlus Gaudi Studio:
    How did you guys come up with this idea? How does/did the R&D process look like?:)

    @Boris Yue - OnePlus Product Manager:
    What are the chances that technologies from a concept phone will be transferred to a "real" phone? I mean, what is the benefit of this?:)

    @Hayden W. - OnePlus System Engineer:
    Is there a way of combining the idea of the OnePlus Concept One phone and the OnePlus 8T concept? I really like the idea of the "hidden camera".:)

    @Kevin Tao - OnePlus Product Designer:
    The back is looking like a flower, why did you choose this design?:)
     
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  20. Starcommander
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jan 4, 2021

    Starcommander , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @ZENG XI.
    This IDEA is cool but this creates a new set of problems. One of which is an opaque case will literally make this system unusable. Have you considered that situation?

    @Hayden W. Why you guys didn't choose an actual display at the behind? The changing colors look good however I don't find it useful.
     
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  21. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jan 4, 2021

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  22. Navdeep_Malik
    Jelly Bean Jan 4, 2021

    Navdeep_Malik , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @Kevin Tao @ZENG XI @Hayden W.
    1.Since there is metal oxide in the glass what if someone drops cracks the glass....will it be harmful in any way? will the whole pattern still work in case of localised damage ie still lights up !
    2. Since the color changing property varies with voltage and valence state of the oxide does that mean the number of colors for notification is extremely limited?
    3. how soon can we see an implementation in a future device?
     
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  23. PritishPriyam
    Honeycomb Jan 4, 2021

    PritishPriyam , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @Hayden W.
    Do you guys plan on using more of the mmWave technology for providing some more health monitoring features ?
    @ZENG XI.
    Are there gonna be some heating issues due to the changing of the colors and how fool proof is this feature ?
    @Boris Yue.
    Is it gonna display more colors in the future and can they be customised by the user ?
    @Kevin Tao.
    Is there a possibility of customising the pattern in the back according to the user's choice or provision of multiple patterns to choose from ?
     
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  24. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jan 4, 2021

    AlienEye , Jan 4, 2021 :
    @ZENG XI
    It's really good to see two concept devices in the same year from an emerging brand. And now you have a dedicated R&D centre, so how excited are you about it?
    Is the concept device development limited only to perfection of concept or is it also about focusing on behaviour and tuning other aspects combined with the concept?
     
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  25. Rajnish_Dhull
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jan 4, 2021

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  26. anunayC
    Honeycomb Jan 4, 2021

    anunayC , via OnePlus 6T Thunder Purple , Jan 4, 2021 :
    Hey @ZENG XI.

    • As mentioned Project Gaudi is a "Global R&D design team", will the community get to participate in such projects as well? If yes what would the criterias be!

    • What products will you Gaudi team be working with? Just phones or even experimenting with other "Ecosystem" products as well?

    • Also lastly the mmWave tech seems very intresting, is there any way you can expand it to other products in the OnePlus ecosystem?


    Thanks for taking up questions :) wishing you a happy new year!
     
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  27. Rajnish_Dhull
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jan 4, 2021

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  28. luigimario
    The Lab - OnePlus 6T Reviewer Jan 4, 2021

    luigimario , Jan 4, 2021 :
    Hi all, very interesting developments.

    @ZENG XI - Could the mmWave technology have other interesting uses other than breathing monitoring, perhaps as a distance measurement device?

    @Boris Yue - to add to the health monitoring functions of the phone, could the fingerprint sensor be used to detect a user's pulse in the thumb and provide a heart rate?

    @Hayden W. - how do these novel new features affect battery consumption, or is it a negligible effect?

    @Kevin Tao - What sources of inspiration were drawn from in the design of the 8t Concept phone?
     
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  29. Lokesh Dutta
    Gingerbread Jan 4, 2021

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  30. sumitMZ007
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jan 4, 2021

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  31. luigimario
    The Lab - OnePlus 6T Reviewer Jan 4, 2021

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  32. Dresa91
    User of the Year 2016; Most Active User 2020 Jan 4, 2021

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  33. SRD.
    KitKat Jan 4, 2021

    SRD. , via OnePlus 7T , Jan 4, 2021 :
    Such a wonderful AMA and a wonderful concept.

    @ZENG XI @Boris Yue @Hayden W. @Kevin Tao
    Anyone can answer

    My questions for the AMA:


    1. Around 70/80 % users uses cases on smartphones, the concept design is applicable to devices without case. So how to ensure durability of the metal oxide in glass if no case is used. If Case is applicable how to address it ?

    2. Rather than having the pamukkale inspired design , has the team thought of having the colour changing feature around the Bezel & OnePlus Logo rather than the entire body ?

    The design May not be accepted by many as a professional look.

    3. Reactive sensing technology (ECMF + mm wave technology) is not a completely proven technology yet, How much is the system loading due to adoption of such technology. What is the impact on battery life ???

    4. How far Oneplus8T concept moved beyond the Concept One design ?
    Electrochromic glass metal oxide, polarized filter. Can they be combined to have an invisible camera and a colour Changing logo ?

    5. What are the possibility of change in specifications to current Oneplus8T design, if the concept one is adopted.

    6. There was Onelab , now OnePlus Gaudi. How different these 2 teams are and why Such team can't be merged to Make a single concept Technology team.

    All the best to the team for such innovative thinking. I really like the concept, as I have mentioned the design May not be liked by many.
     
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  34. Helder_DAlmeida
    Lollipop Jan 4, 2021

    Helder_DAlmeida , via OnePlus 7T Glacier Blue , Jan 4, 2021 :
    Thanks for the AMA @ZENG XI! My question is for you:
    How did the idea for this prototype come about and how many sketches were made until reaching the final prototype that was presented? How many more changes are expected to be made before the final product is presented, from the prototype?
    Happy new year for you and the team.
     
    #20
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