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david's random nonsense thread Aug 19, 2020

  1. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Aug 19, 2020

    David Y. , Aug 19, 2020 :
    hi there,

    welcome. this thread is a space filled with my random nonsense to some trending topics inside (or outside) this community. as an insider, esp. as a community OG, I am happy to share some thoughts that I usually don't tell in somewhere else.

    cheers,
     
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  2. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Aug 19, 2020

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    David Y. , Aug 19, 2020 :
    this is one of the crazy ideas that came to my head last year, but then I realized:

    I was the first one to like puccellino's comment in 2017. I probably stole his idea without knowing it.
     
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  3. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Aug 19, 2020

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    David Y. , Aug 19, 2020 :
    talking about the new design on OxygenOS 11.
     
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  4. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Aug 21, 2020

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    David Y. , Aug 21, 2020 :
    I don't disagree. let us dig deeper, how do we judge a design is a bad design?

    oh man, I really love this question. we've been trying to answer this question over the past few years, it's a continuous process of exploration. early this year we introduced our new brand visual identity. applying it to all user touchpoints is also a gradual process, some visual elements in OOS 11 actually match our new brand VI.

    I personally don't put differentiation over practicality. to quote from dieter rams, 'good design makes a product useful. a product is bought to be used. it has to satisfy certain criteria, not only functional, but also psychological and aesthetic. good design emphasises the usefulness of a product whilst disregarding anything that could possibly detract from it.'
     
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  5. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Sep 4, 2020

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    David Y. , Sep 4, 2020 :
    regarding the OnePlus Buds update on the Google Play Store and why it cannot be uninstalled at the moment.

    the interaction between OnePlus smartphones and our newly-introduced true wireless headset is tied with several system settings. to ensure a seamless experience, we pre-installed the OnePlus Pods app (now renamed it to “OnePlus Buds”) in the latest stable updates for OnePlus 6 and above devices.

    as more and more users start enjoying the OnePlus Buds, we keep receiving customization suggestions regarding our true wireless products. this requires us to iterate the software more quickly, so we decided to put the app on the Google Play Store to provide our users with the latest perfected experience without needing a full software update.

    this is the best solution for now. we are also evaluating the technical solution of system-level decoupling. stay tuned.
     
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  6. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Sep 7, 2020

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  7. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Sep 29, 2020

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    David Y. , Sep 29, 2020 :
    a good book to recommend.

    Factfulness.jpg

    Rosling talks about our ten ‘Dramatic Instincts’ (and 10 reasons why we are wrong about the world). Here they are:
    1. The Gap Instinct - We tend to divide the things into 2 distinct groups and imagine a gap between them. To control gap instinct, look for the majority. Beware of the averages, if you look at the spread, the majority will overlap. Beware comparisons of extremes (Media loves to do it).
    2. The Negativity Instinct - We tend to instinctively notice the bad more than the good. We need to learn to acknowledge the fact that things can be both ‘better’ and ‘bad’ at the same time. For example, education levels have improved over time, but still, 10% of the children don’t get any education, that’s bad. We also need to know that good news is never reported, media would hype the bad stuff always. Subsequently, a gradual improvement isn’t reported either. Countries, governments, media often try to glorify the past, so we need to be beware of these rosy pasts.
    3. The Straight Line Instinct - When we see a line going up steadily, we tend to assume the line will continue to go up in the foreseeable future. To control this instinct, remember that curves come in different shapes. Finally, don’t assume straight lines if data doesn’t show it.
    4. The Fear Instinct - We tend to perceive the world to be scarier than it really is. We overestimate the risks associated with violence, captivity, contamination, etc. The world seems scarier because what you hear has been carefully selected to be told. Remember, Risk = Danger x Exposure, and act accordingly. Make decisions only when you’re calm, not when you are afraid.
    5. The Size Instinct - We tend to see things out of proportion, over-estimating the importance of a single event/person that’s visible to us, and the scale of an issue based on a standalone number. A lonely number may seem impressive in isolation, but can be trivial in comparison to something else. Hence, always look for comparisons. Use the 80/20 rule. When comparing countries, look for rates per person.
    6. The Generalization Instinct - We tend to wrongly assume that everything or everyone in a category is similar. Hence, we must look for differences within a group, look for similarities across groups, and look for differences across groups. We should beware of the term ‘Majority’ – it can mean 51% or 99% or anything in between. Beware of vivid images, which are easier to recall but can be exceptions than the general norm.
    7. The Destiny Instinct - We tend to assume that the destinies of people, cultures, countries, etc. are predetermined by certain factors, and such factors are fixed and unchanging, i.e. their destinies are fixed. To control this, we must keep track of gradual changes and improvements. We should update our knowledge on different subjects, and look for examples of cultural changes.
    8. The Single Perspective Instinct - We tend to focus on single causes or solutions, which are easier to grasp and make our problems seem easier to solve. It is better to look at problems from multiple perspectives. To control this, always test your ideas and allow people to find weaknesses. Don’t claim to be an expert at all times, be humble about your limited expertise in different areas.
    9. The Blame Instinct - When something goes wrong, we instinctively blame it on someone or something. To control this, resist finding a scapegoat. Look for causes, not villains. Finally, look for systems and processes, not heroes.
    10. The Urgency Instinct - We tend to rush into a problem or opportunity for fear that there’s no time and we may be too late. To control this, take small steps. Always insist on data rather than making hunch based hasty decisions. Always be aware of the side effects of your hasty decision to avoid making the same.
    reviewed by Atul Kumar Singh, on Amazon.​
     
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  8. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Oct 9, 2020

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    David Y. , Oct 9, 2020 :
    haha! all looks the same is not always a bad thing. full immersive displays make smartphones look the same on the front, but no one is complaining about it. why?

    the fact is, it is not the most economical/effective way of stacking components.

    users' inherent prejudice may be the biggest external challenge our camera encounters. the relative weakness of previous generations of cameras can make people feel that our cameras will always be in weakness. the most effective way to verify the competitiveness of a camera is a camera blind test, because it can eliminate brand bias.

    for your reference: https://www.androidauthority.com/hu...o-vs-galaxy-s20-plus-camera-shootout-1108282/ (I am confident about 8 pro's camera, feel free to look for other camera comparison articles ^^

    most of the known issues are in the work. is there any new issues of the buds?
     
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  9. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Oct 10, 2020

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    David Y. , Oct 10, 2020 :
    my definition of tech enthusiasts, version beta.
    • #beginner: watch tech news and follow media/influencers’ opinion. have a basic understanding of major brands and their products.
    • #amateur: able to read spec sheets, can tell a specific spec’s performance, and make quick comparisons. know overall software features.
    • #semi-pro: able to understand how each hardware/software component works at a technical level, why it can provide this level of performance (user experience), and its advantages and disadvantages. able to form his/her own opinion.
    • #professional: understand how the technology works as a whole, including the interactions and constraints of different technologies/features, able to independently evaluate the advantages and disadvantages of different product solutions. have an in-depth understanding of the latest technology trends, and able to make proper predictions on technology commercialization.
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    don't get me wrong, labeling people is pointless, know how to keep learning something you passionate about is much more meaningful, yet rewarding.

    again, version beta, my personal thoughts. welcome everyone's input on this topic so that I can perfect it.
     
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  10. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Oct 15, 2020

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    David Y. , via OnePlus 8T Lunar Silver , Oct 15, 2020 :
    interesting angle. the iceberg here represents the amount of knowledge each level requires, not the number of users. in fact, these two metrics are likely negatively correlated.
     
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  11. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Oct 15, 2020

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    David Y. , Oct 15, 2020 :
    when the price of a new product is lower than the previous generation.

    here comes the question, what are the factors that will cause this situation?
     
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  12. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 5, 2020

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    David Y. , Nov 5, 2020 :
    for many users, the forum structure is too old to get used to. personally, I suggest transferring the format from independent sections to #topictags (e.g., offtopic section = #offtopic. sometimes one thread shares more than one topic), which can provide a more natural and flexible communication environment. Twitter is actually doing a good job in this part. ultimately, communities are social platforms for specific purposes.

    I am counting on the community product team to make my dream come true!

    (see, I don't have to copy this comment from another thread if we had a #topictag structure...
     
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  13. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 10, 2020

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  14. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 11, 2020

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    David Y. , Nov 11, 2020 :
    looking forward to it.

    my personal thought is, it is the people that getting more power-hungry, the needs for digital consumption push the iteration forward. the essence of business is to find the right target audience, discover and fulfill their true needs. for those who don't, they are putting themselves at risk.

    “find the right target audience, discover and fulfill their true needs.”
    this can explain almost everything (business).
     
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  15. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 11, 2020

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    David Y. , Nov 11, 2020 :
    stand in an opposite angle, as a consumer, we need to know what we need, not what we want, keep our mind clear, make each penny worthwhile. don't get lost in the consumerism/vanity storm.
     
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  16. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 24, 2020

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    David Y. , Nov 24, 2020 :
    thanks guys, love you all!

    still testing the galaxy note 20 ultra, manage to test an iphone in december, and then kick off 2021 with the next oneplus.

    I am going to buy two books this weekend as my birthday gift ;)
     
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  17. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 26, 2020

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  18. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Nov 28, 2020

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  19. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Dec 16, 2020

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    David Y. , Dec 16, 2020 :
    hi folks, dropping by and sharing the book for this week's reading.

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    wait, the color of the book matches the community homepage so well ;)

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  20. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 3, 2021

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    David Y. , Feb 3, 2021 :
    thanks cheetos. my wrist has Nothing nothing, I realized a watch is more like the icing on the cake, rather than a must-have for me, for now. but hey, the oneplus watch is something worth the wait.
     
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  21. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 3, 2021

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    David Y. , via OnePlus Community App , Feb 3, 2021 :
    it's easy to say that, but honestly, my answer is no.

    before i joined the os team, i was the project manager (marketing) of the watch, i had the chance to work closely with our watch product team and learn how everything works internally. the fact is, we, together with oppo, develop the watch project in parallel, sometimes we are ahead of oppo, sometimes not. we do share some R&D resources, however, because our temperament are different, the final deliverables won't be the same.
     
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  22. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 3, 2021

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    David Y. , via OnePlus Community App , Feb 3, 2021 :
    lying isn't my job, buddy. yes things have changed, from what i know and what i see, our users are the one to benefit in the end.
     
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  23. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 4, 2021

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    David Y. , Feb 4, 2021 :
    sounds like some friends in this room have a similar stand about marketing. marketing is a big word, and it's a neutral word, the key here is how to do it right. what's marketing? and why is there marketing?

    i don't know... who can press the yes or no button?
     
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  24. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 5, 2021

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    David Y. , via OnePlus Community App , Feb 5, 2021 :
    follow your words, is religion the top level of marketing?
     
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  25. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 5, 2021

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    David Y. , Feb 5, 2021 :
    wise words cheetos.👏

    yes, there was an interesting article: https://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-apple-makes-your-brain-go-all-religious/

    IMG_20210205_201143.jpg

    actually my question was inspired by this old video:


    no offense, but I do appreciate those religions that push people to develop good virtues. great marketing should also be the process to empower people and the whole society, for good deeds.
     
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  26. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Feb 22, 2021

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    David Y. , Feb 22, 2021 :
    interesting article... curious to know what's their definition of being a rationalist. for economists, rationality means people will make choices that benefit themselves the most, but on daily basis, when we talk about rationality, it stands for reasonable, sensible.
     
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  27. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Mar 6, 2021

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  28. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Mar 8, 2021

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    David Y. , Mar 8, 2021 :
    our plan is to have it land safely in March.
     
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  29. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Mar 8, 2021

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    David Y. , via OnePlus Community App , Mar 8, 2021 :
    I understand that many users, especially tech enthusiasts, are eager for software updates, which is why we have been pushing the team behind the scenes. we know that software updates are of great importance to users like you.

    however at the same time, I suggest that instead of pressing the f5 key over and over again to asking for an update for your device, it is better to take advantage of this time to do something meaningful to update yourself as well.
     
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  30. HarshKK14
    Honeycomb Aug 19, 2020

    HarshKK14 , Aug 19, 2020 :
    Well I'll surely appreciate this[e]1f602[/e]
     
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  31. SoniaB
    Head Moderator; Community Hero 2020 Head Moderator Aug 19, 2020

    SoniaB , Aug 19, 2020 :
    Which one did you take?

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  32. script
    Moderator Moderator Aug 19, 2020

    script , Aug 19, 2020 :
    Bookmarked :)

    Looking forward to this. I think, your „nonsense“ makes much more sense than other's serious threads........ 🙄🙄🙄
     
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  33. derLenno
    The Lab - OnePlus 6 Reviewer Aug 19, 2020

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  34. buntycubal
    User of the Year 2017 Aug 19, 2020

    buntycubal , Aug 19, 2020 :
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  35. Starcommander
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

    Starcommander , Aug 20, 2020 :
    Legends say that you still have pornhub app icon in pubg. Is that true :rolleyes::p
     
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  36. G_plusone
    Nougat Aug 20, 2020

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  37. David Y.
    OxygenOS Staff Member Aug 20, 2020

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  38. Starcommander
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

    Starcommander , Aug 20, 2020 :
    I dare you invite your wife to this community and tell her that 😜😂
     
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  39. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

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  40. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

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  41. G_plusone
    Nougat Aug 20, 2020

    G_plusone , Aug 20, 2020 :
    Actually there's a thread literally called Random Nonsense Club :D aside from the fact that Wormhole exists :p
     
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  42. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

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  43. Starcommander
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

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  44. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Aug 20, 2020

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  45. the_o2
    OnePlus 9 Series Expert Community Expert Aug 20, 2020

    the_o2 , Aug 20, 2020 :
    Where is the nonsense :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  46. G_plusone
    Nougat Aug 20, 2020

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