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Excellent good light still camera performance so far on OP5 compared to competition!

  1. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 25, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 25, 2017 :
    Hello,

    I'm not professional video maker, in fact this is my second public video, but I still wanted to express my findings about Oneplus 5 camera. Feel free to comment. I'm still waiting or my OP5, so I have used GSMARENA photo comparison tool for this purpose and commented on their photo samples.



    Devices Included in this comparison:
    LG V20
    HTC U11
    Samsung S8+
    Apple Iphone 7 plus
    Google Pixel XL
    Sony Xperia XZ Premium

    I have skipped Xiaomi MI 6 and Huawei P10 Plus by purpose, because both of them have lower quality photos than OP5. In case somebody's interested I can explain my reasons.

    Comparison groups:
    I. Group
    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=8238&idPhone3=8630
    II. Group
    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=8523&idPhone3=8065
    III. Group
    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=8345&idPhone3=8593

    Update:
    3:45 - Circles - Because for some reason my video recording is only in 1080p and not in 4K head to I. Group link for check out difference, it's huge.
     
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  2. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 25, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 25, 2017 :
    OP5 vs S8 comparison. S8 clearly struggles to beat OP 5 in good light conditions



    Please notice my comments in video comment section or copy pasted below. It's great that author provided raw JPEGs everyone can compare on own PC.

    My comments

    In macro shot 1:47 S8 overexposes loosing details in bright areas of main subject. Fine detail is lost in picture as whole in S8 case. Crop: http://imgur.com/a/620jU

    2:20 plan shot - S8 have great sharpness in center of image but falls apart closer it gets to edges. OP5 provide better detail and sharper picture in exact same spot. Crop: http://imgur.com/a/Iwsru

    2:25 Image of cage under bridge. If you compare images and zoom in, you start notice how much details S8 looses due to it's lower resolution sensor and aggressive noise reduction. Copped if for easier comparison from original photos in here: http://i.imgur.com/Bs90QVM.jpg

    BR, Lukas
     

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  3. snoopy5
    Gingerbread Jun 28, 2017

    snoopy5 , Jun 28, 2017 :
    I doubt that the Huawei P10 or P10 plus have lower image quality than the OP5. The lens of the HP10 is incredible sharp even at the corners. I have seen photos made by my friend which really impressed me when zooming in.

    Could you explain your thoughts?
     

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  4. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 28, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 28, 2017 :
    I had Mate 9 right after it was released. It have same sensors and lens as P10. In low light you can notice visible lost of saturation compared to how scene looks in real life. If you zoom, you can see heavy sharpening and noise filtering artifacts, lack of fine detail. Way how Huawei sharpen photos makes impression that it's sharp and detailed, unless you start cropping. F/2.2 aperture was to slow for me. You have to crank up ISO or lower shutter speed way to much to get good shot. Which results in more blurry objects which are currently in motion. Check out photo processing at 400% zoom, it was simply too crude for my taste. Impressive was how Mate 9 handled overall picture look even at 1600+ ISO values. Dynamic range for BW camera was good. I could have used RAW but I do not have hours for post editing anymore, like I had when I was younger. :)
     

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  5. snoopy5
    Gingerbread Jun 28, 2017

    snoopy5 , Jun 28, 2017 :
    So you do not have first hand experience with the Huawei P10/P10 plus.

    What I heard from users who had both, Mate 9 and HP10, the HP10 and HP10 plus is visbly better than the Mate 9.

    The P10 Plus has in addition a different lens. With the HP10 I am not sure (both have F2.2). But the imaging processor makes huge differences. All former Mate 9 users I know switched happily to P10 or P10 plus.

    Edit: Compare images here:

    https://www.lowyat.net/2017/126527/camera-shootout-huawei-p10-vs-huawei-p9-vs-huawei-mate-9-pro/
     
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  6. KabirTandon
    Cupcake Jun 28, 2017

  7. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 28, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 28, 2017 :
    I see your point. They enhanced processing a bit on P10, so it is not craking up exposure so high. So that image is bit darker but less smudgy with more detail. Noise reduction is bit less aggressive as well. That's good. I have seen this comparison, but haven't really noticed. Thanks for hint. :)

    Especially for you, based on our input I have created album here http://lukasdvorok.imgur.com/ called OP5 vs P10 vs P10 Plus. With 10 comparisons in good light and 5 in low light. :)

    Link for original comparison is here:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=8514&idPhone3=8515
    So you can compare on your PC as well.
     
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  8. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 28, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 28, 2017 :
    You will notice a bit more "grain" or "noise" how people it in OP5 photos, but this less aggressive noise reduction algorithm is contributing to more detailed final image. I have so much same experience when I compared it outside controlled environment. So I would say, it's really matter of taste what you like more details or less noise? I personally do not care about noise if it helps to save detail in my shot.
     

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  9. bus_ter
    Gingerbread Jun 28, 2017

    bus_ter , Jun 28, 2017 :
    nice video. unfortunately when you get your op5 and start trying to take photos in low light with any sort of movement you'll discover the major floor.

    The OP5 takes great 'benchmark' testing photos. But takes very poor real life usage photos.
     

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  10. lukas.dvorok
    Honeycomb Jun 28, 2017

    lukas.dvorok , Jun 28, 2017 :
    Depends how how much low light we are talking about. Cloudy day or light dusk is still okay from my experience. Any darker than that, I anyway use flash as 1/17 is not enough to capture moving subjects. Depending on subject speed you normally need from 1/60 to 1/100 for kids. No phone today can go such short shutter today. Not even U11. Even my a6000 with 1.8 50mm steady glass have to punch ISO quite high. Flash is way to go, not ideal, but it works for me as long as you are about 1m far away from your subject. I haven't so far tried tripod for static scene night photography. But then you have to go to manually mode, because auto won't go under 1/17 of second. As well as set lower ISO manually.
     

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  11. ilovesoneplus
    Jelly Bean Jun 28, 2017

    ilovesoneplus , Jun 28, 2017 :
    It's losing not loosing..
     

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    Honeycomb Jun 28, 2017


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    Ice Cream Sandwich Jun 28, 2017


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  16. Waka_Yama
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jun 28, 2017

    Waka_Yama , Jun 28, 2017 :
    The first picture was taken with Portrait Mode and all auto.

    the Second Shot was taken in Pro Mode with some playing around of White Balancing
     

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