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LAUGHING AT ONEPLUS TV!

  1. elanglois
    Lollipop Dec 1, 2019

    elanglois , Dec 1, 2019 :
    First, not enough specs listed

    Second ... the stand? Really? No excuse! If your $1000 TV wobbles, that's just funny! Poor remote. Laughing at Oneplus for copying Apple (again), rather than making a good design! Poor HDR performance with some apps. Low RAM/Flash available and a GPU too slow for gaming. No HDR on Youtube? Laughing! The list of issues is staggering!

    Third, I see some reviews saying that Oneplus is using edge-lighting, another that says 90 zones (meaning full-array). Can anyone confirm? Can anyone confirm the 96% of DCI-P3? Edge-lighting is just inexcusable! Only bargain TVs use edge-lighting, or TVs that are OLD.

    Fourth ... Pro has a slide-down sound bar? First, a semi-pro would use a much better sounding sound-bar that wasn't attached. A REAL pro would have an AV receiver with a REAL surround sound, not some stupid sound bar! Neither pro would have a motorized sound bar built-in that you can't replace. This is a gimmick for NON pros! Every pro will buy the non-pro version and have external audio! Someone doesn't know who their audience is! (oneplus) That stupid gimmick is laughable!

    QLED technology offers color quality competitive with OLED, but only only under certain conditions. The first is that QLED offers better accuracy, no burn-in, and brighter colors. The colors stay accurate even under extremely bright conditions and still don't burn-in. Oneplus seems to think that NTSC is a viable standard. It's NEVER been a standard and no one even refers to it even more. They tell us 120% of the NTSC space. So what!? Someone please wash out Oneplus's mouth with Castor Oil every time they mention NTSC. They pulled that crap with their phones and they were chastised and ridiculed and finally they started using DCI-P3 standard and real color profiles for their phones. Why do they insist on NTSC? No Television ever made was ever actually compliant to NTSC spec and that spec isn't in use anymore at all!

    They need to stop with the over-saturated colors and start tuning the display for an accurate sRGB color space for SDR content and an accurate DCI-P3 for HDR10 and rec.2020 for Dolby Vision. Finally, how many bits per pixel does the Oneplus TV support? It needs 10 bits for HDR, 12 for true Dolby Vision support.

    QLED technology's biggest drawback is that it is based on LCD. This means that managing black levels and "blooming" can be difficult. LCD TVs use backlight zones to manage this. The more zones, usually through full-array dimming, the better. The more backlight zones, the better contrast you can achieve. The Samsung Q60 (entry-level) gets 6700:1 with a very good native-contrast and edge-lit local-dimming. The TCL 6-series and its full-array dimming gets 8196:1 contrast! The Vizio m-series Quantum (available at <$500 range) gets 9815:1 (with a 98.55% DCI-P3 range), while the top of the line P-series Quantum clocks in at a contrast of 14743:1! What's the Oneplus's contrast?

    Worst yet, Oneplus doesn't do full-array dimming at all according to GSM-Arena! It does edge-lighting with 16 zones, which explains the blooming and poor contrast. Some reviewers are saying 90 zones and great contrast and near perfect blacks. Both of those statements match the quality with the number of zones, but they both can't be true! Can Oneplus PLEASE release a decent spec-sheet?

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    See the column that says "Better"? Full-array local dimming is used by my Vizio and the TCL 6-series. The Samsung Q60 uses edge-lighting. The new TCL 6-series also uses QLED technology but is about 2/3 the price of the Oneplus. The difference means a much greater contrast when local dimming is enabled and better black uniformity. While the Q60 is a similar price as the Oneplus TV, the TCL 6-series claims much brighter HDR and 97% of the DCI P3 space. So, the TCL is likely the competitor here, but they beat Oneplus on price by a significant margin! $599 vs nearly $1000!

    Further, for $2000, you get the massively improved TCL-8 series (a full 65") which is QLED with a mini-LED array. There are THOUSANDS of backlight zones! It uses these to get a ground-breaking 39812:1 contrast!! Sure, its not as good as OLED infinite:1, but REALLY hard to see! Peak brightness is in the 2000 nits range (1880 while the Vizio P Series Quantum is looking at nearly 2400, making me wonder why the m-series quantum is one of the darkest)

    I wish that the Oneplus TV would sell better than it will, only so that they will make another. There really is room in the QLED space for a better product. Take TCLs mini-LED backlight, pair it with a better processor, better calibration and grey uniformity. I'd like to see the PWM of the backlight on par with TCL (960Hz), the color of the TCL, avoid too much dimming of dark material (an issue TCL has, Vizio doesn't), Vizio's color and total brightness output and response times, etc. However, I think the Q1 will be an orphan like the Oneplus X - a failed experiment never to be repeated.
     

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  2. timmureddy
    Eclair Dec 2, 2019

    timmureddy , via OnePlus 7 Pro , Dec 2, 2019 :
    You are tying to compare oneplus tv price for india against samsung q60r price in USA. Oneplus Tv costs 69900 roughly 1000$ whereas Samsung q60r used to cost around 110000 which is more than 1500$. Post oneplus tv launch q60r has come down to as low as 90000 which is still good 1350$.
     

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  3. gauravcool07
    Eclair Dec 2, 2019

    gauravcool07 , Dec 2, 2019 :


    timmureddy

    You are tying to compare oneplus tv price for india against samsung q60r price in USA. Oneplus Tv costs 69900 roughly 1000$ whereas Samsung q60r used to cost around 110000 which is more than 1500$. Post oneplus tv launch q60r has come down to as low as 90000 which is still good 1350$.​


    Also No TCL dolby vision model (like R615 )is available in India, so one plus is best deal here. Maybe TCL and Vizio are best deal there in US.
     

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  4. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Dec 5, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Dec 5, 2019 :
    The most important question:

    Has nobody noticed the lack of a kernel source?
     

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  5. KeepTransisting
    The Lab - OnePlus 7 Pro Reviewer Dec 5, 2019

    KeepTransisting , Dec 5, 2019 :
    Indeed. The OnePlus TV may not look all that hot from a western perspective, but it's like comparing apples and oranges.
     

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  6. elanglois
    Lollipop Dec 5, 2019

    elanglois , via OnePlus 7 Pro , Dec 5, 2019 :
    They had better make it dirt cheap in the US
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  7. elanglois
    Lollipop Dec 5, 2019

    elanglois , via OnePlus 7 Pro , Dec 5, 2019 :
    I'm still stuck on the lack of a product.
     

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  8. timmureddy
    Eclair Dec 6, 2019


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  9. elanglois
    Lollipop Dec 11, 2019

    elanglois , via OnePlus 7 Pro , Dec 11, 2019 :
    I still want better specs ... number of backlight zones (and if its edge or full array), better sizes, color accuracy specs, etc.

    Maybe RTINGS.com will test it if it comes to the US
     

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  10. timmureddy
    Eclair Dec 11, 2019

    timmureddy , via OnePlus 7 Pro , Dec 11, 2019 :
    I already see it on rtings website on suggest a tv page.
     

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  11. elanglois
    Lollipop Dec 11, 2019


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