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Nord vs OnePlus 8: Why the price difference?

  1. Bhargavesque
    Honeycomb Jul 23, 2020

    Bhargavesque , via OnePlus 5T , Jul 23, 2020 :
    I did see some benchmark scores, and yes, on paper 845 does look better. But benchmark scores and real world performance differ depending on a lot of factors. I'm factoring in things like software optimization and over time deterioration. The software would definitely be more optimized for the 765G and the 865, them being new chips. Over time deterioration wouldn't make much of a difference I don't think. But anyway, I hope you get where I'm coming from on this.
     

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  2. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jul 23, 2020

    AlienEye , via OnePlus 6 , Jul 23, 2020 :
    No, I don't but only thing I can say better is 765G is a 7nm chip compared to 845's 10nm chip which helps 765G to be more cooler due to which performance may increase
     

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  3. Arjun_Choudhry
    Jelly Bean Jul 23, 2020

    Arjun_Choudhry , Jul 23, 2020 :
    Great article @Bhargavesque. Just a couple of more points. The Nord has Dirac tuning for the speakers, while the OP8 has Dolby Atmos support. The OP8 also supports HDR10, while the Nord has no HDR support. The Nord also has a smaller display by .11 inches diagonal. Even more points to show why the OP8 is worth the premium over the Nord for the right users.
     

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  4. Bhargavesque
    Honeycomb Jul 23, 2020

    Bhargavesque , via OnePlus 5T , Jul 23, 2020 :
    Thank you. Glad you liked the writing. And thank you for the additional points too. :)
     

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  5. SJBoss
    Lollipop Jul 23, 2020

    SJBoss , Jul 23, 2020 :
    I'd say (maybe) next to 845 but a bit worse. I've read the article you provided and they only compared the AI capabilities to 855 and few other things that doesn't affect the day to day usage.
    Even against 845 It'd lack performance where it matters like gaming. 845 has a superior GPU and that'll translate to a superior performance in gaming and smoother animations. It might be comparable to the 845 but it's not at the same page.
     

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  6. manuel19
    The Lab - OnePlus 8T Reviewer Jul 23, 2020

    manuel19 , Jul 23, 2020 :
    I'm glad to correct you on that one, but the Nord does in fact have a linear vibration motor (yay!)

    Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-nord-review-1139531/

    "The Nord’s linear vibration motor makes the haptics feel surprisingly crisp for a mid-range smartphone."
     

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  7. Bhargavesque
    Honeycomb Jul 23, 2020


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  8. mike_r1971
    Gingerbread Jul 24, 2020

    mike_r1971 , Jul 24, 2020 :
    The Nord does support HDR10+
     

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  9. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jul 24, 2020


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  10. mike_r1971
    Gingerbread Jul 24, 2020

    mike_r1971 , Jul 24, 2020 :
    Well, the last screenshot, I attached (did you look?) as well as GSM arena stating it supports it plus the fact that Matthew Moniz, during his Nord launch livestream actually tested this by playing a hdr video, on YouTube thru the Nord (the option to view it in hdr was offered and selected) makes me believe it does, over what your thoughts are.
     

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  11. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jul 24, 2020


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  12. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jul 24, 2020

    AlienEye , via OnePlus 6 , Jul 24, 2020 :


    mike_r1971

    Well, the last screenshot, I attached (did you look?) as well as GSM arena stating it supports it plus the fact that Matthew Moniz, during his Nord launch livestream actually tested this by playing a hdr video, on YouTube thru the Nord (the option to view it in hdr was offered and selected) makes me believe it does, over what your thoughts are.​


    Look at the pic above[e]1f446[/e]
     

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  13. mike_r1971
    Gingerbread Jul 24, 2020


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  14. AlienEye
    OnePlus Accessory Tester Jul 24, 2020

    AlienEye , via OnePlus 6 , Jul 24, 2020 :
    Do you think OnePlus official website will give wrong information?

    1595595576574.jpg
    If you think so, I'm outta here
     

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  15. malidan
    Nougat Jul 24, 2020

    malidan , Jul 24, 2020 :
    Nice thread bro.

    But tbh i am just not seeing the £220 price difference.
    OP must have made much deeper reaching cutbacks to come in at this price, like using OPPO's mid-ranged supply chain and reducing their margins on this device.
     

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  16. malidan
    Nougat Jul 24, 2020

    malidan , Jul 24, 2020 :
    Listening to him trying to place OP above
    OPPO, Xiaomi, Vivo was quite amusing.
    No dept
    No character
    No ecosystem
    He obviously isn't aware of all the products Xiaomi produce that are controlled from the mobile phone.
    The Sponsorship on again is there to be seen.:rolleyes:
     

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  17. Bhargavesque
    Honeycomb Jul 24, 2020

    Bhargavesque , via OnePlus 5T , Jul 24, 2020 :
    They're definitely borrowing a lot of OPPO's (and Vivo's) stuff. But the biggest cost-saver, in my opinion, isn't directly the tech in the device; it's not having to host multiple live launch events across the globe. I'm not sure what the ballpark would be, but I imagine they saved a lot of money on venue-bookings, logistics, proper goodie bags and all that. And the pandemic was the perfect excuse for an "AR Launch".
    They also sold a lot of cardboard 'invites', which were basically printable QR codes.
     

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  18. malidan
    Nougat Jul 24, 2020

    malidan , Jul 24, 2020 :
    That is a very good shout, imagine what the price the 8 series would have been with all those extras added on.:)
     

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  19. tide1109
    Jelly Bean Jul 26, 2020

    tide1109 , via OnePlus 7T , Jul 26, 2020 :
    When we look a representative devices of the Snapdragon 845 and 765G devices in the Speed Test G pool, both have a similar performance.
    The Nord doesn't have Speed Test G test yet. I took the ZTE Axon 11 with the SD765G as a representative. The Axon 11 needed 2 minutes and 15 seconds.
    A OnePlus SD845 device wasn't tested in version 2.0, so the Pixel 3 XL and the Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon Version) are
    the representative. The 3 XL also needs exact 2 minutes and 15 seconds and the S9 needs 2:26.7.

    In conclusion the Nord should be equal or even better than a SD845 device. Because all devices have different hardware and software optimizations, the times will be different on different devices.

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    ZTE Axon 11:


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    S9:



    There also more differences between the regular 8 and the Nord. They are a bit smaller but also important.

    Firstly the Nord uses the USB 2.0 standard on the USB port. The 8 uses the USB 3.1 standard. Beside the slower connection speeds the Nord doesn't support video-out over the USB port. It may be important for some users.

    The OnePlus 8 does support WiFi6 where the Nord lacks this compatibility.

    One thing that you @Bhargavesque didn't mentioned is the ultrawide lens. Beside the lower resolution the quality is probably also worse. The reviews are not yet out for a clear comparison.

    The 4k60 options are also very messy on the OnePlus Nord. The front camera supports 4k60 recording, but the main lens doesn't support it, as you already mentioned.
    The SoC is capable of 4k60 (front camera) and the main lens hardware is capable of 4k60 (OP8 camera).
    The explaination from OnePlus (AMA) for the missing feature is power consumption. Really?? My opinion is, that OnePlus removed 4k60 on the main lens to differentiate the Nord to 7T and OP8.
     

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  20. pkatole24
    Froyo Jul 27, 2020


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