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Picture Style User Preferences Survey

  1. elanglois
    Lollipop Jun 22, 2019

    elanglois , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Same here. It's bad. Did you report it with example pics?? I put examples with RAW/DNG versions in a folder along with the same shot with Gcam (and perfect colors) and send them in Feedback
     

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  2. hoosieradam
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    hoosieradam , Jun 22, 2019 :
    I have no idea who is listening to what. once they messed up the camera I kind of gave up on them, TBH.

    if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     

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  3. Ledeni24
    Gingerbread Jun 22, 2019

    Ledeni24 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    The smartphone camera will never be DSLr...IMHO

     

    #63
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  4. DracoSura
    Ice Cream Sandwich Jun 22, 2019

    DracoSura , Jun 22, 2019 :
    @OverDrive H. I concur with this opinion. I want true to life colors in my stock camera pics. This is why we rely on gcam. Please take pixel photos as reference and give all op devices the camera update fix. Please don't keep the improvements for your next device.
     

    #64
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  5. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    3XM76 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Isn't this like asking whether you like pink or red?

    If I'm taking a photo of a beautiful pink flower I expect it be the same beautiful pink in the photo and not red.

    If I have a scene where there's some animal lurking in the shadows in some foliage I expect to see it in the photo and not crushed to black along with the shadows.

    If the scene I'm shooting has some fine texture, ripples on water, brick wall at a distance I expect to see it as such in the photo. Not smoothened out and partially resharpened to something unrecognizable. The Gcam app manages to maintain the detail so it's doable with the hardware.

    If I'm taking a HDR shot of a slightly moving object I still don't expect to see ghost images or failed image glueing or worse yet some alien effect sometimes generated where there's only some silver color and texture on some areas. Once again the Gcam app manages this on same hardware. Maybe simulate HDR on moving targets in your HDR test lab?

    These are not a matter of taste in photography - the actual act of taking the photo. How you frame the shot, how you time it, which light you choose and how you edit the photo are a matter of taste.

    The job of the software is to enable you to capture what you see. The user has even more possibilities when later editing or applying filters on a technically excellent image where there's as much original data from the scene left. Add contrast, crush the shadows, blur and destroy the image as much as you want - isn't that what the gallery app and Instagram filters are for?

    At least add a setting for natural and vivid. The natural should produce the technically great photo (which you clearly can do with the hardware) and the vivid can have all possible boosts enabled. That would probably end most complaints.

    @OverDrive H.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019

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  6. L1558810472390
    Donut Jun 22, 2019

    L1558810472390 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    I write this comment before even looking at survey. I have OnePlus 7pro and exactly know where image processing fails in my opinion. Noise reduction is too aggressive in all situation. images zoomed at 1:1 pixel size are too smooth lacking fine texture and details.
    Highlights reflections rendition should be better.
    Taking pictures of red roses are nightmare, looks horrible regardless camera mode I use.
    Finally lowlight photography is inconsistent in quality.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019

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  7. L1558810472390
    Donut Jun 22, 2019

    L1558810472390 , Jun 22, 2019 :


    hoosieradam

    I have to agree with the first comment I saw. The current situation is terrible. I'm posting a quick example. With the stock app, colors are off and too bright. The red beach ball is turned orange. When I decrease exposure and saturation, I get closer to the true colors.

    When I bought my phone, the camera was PERFECT. a picture was what I saw with my own eyes. Now images appear to have been artificially adjusted.

    I'm hoping for a fix. I passed up a Pixel for my OnePlus, and if I have to take a loss I'll dump my oneplus and get a Pixel. I don't care how good the specs are. I just want a camera that takes a picture of what I see. Do like other manufacturers and offer quick one touch filters.
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    I like how you edited the image, I would do it similarly.
    If your priority is camera quality then OnePlus is not a right choice for you.
     

    #67
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  8. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

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  9. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    3XM76 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    @OverDrive H.
    Here are two samples - first one is taken with the Gcam app and the second one is with the stock camera. The Gcam has beautiful details also in the shadows between the leafs while the stock camera simply crushes the same shadow to flat black. All the dark areas are darkened near to full black as if the algorithm intentionally tries to force each image to have certain amount of black or contrast between the brightest and darkest parts irrelevant if it's anywhere near the truth. There's also the huge difference in saturation. In it's current state the stock camera is useless for anything other Instagram scenery shots. Surely the Gcam version is closer to what you are trying to achieve and the current stock camera output is accidental?
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  10. elanglois
    Lollipop Jun 22, 2019

    elanglois , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Messed up the camera?? Its ALWAYS been shit
     

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  11. elanglois
    Lollipop Jun 22, 2019

    elanglois , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Gcam is not open source. There is no source code. Almost all tweaks are by editing the XML configuration files in the APK and sometimes via decompiling the Java.

    Using Gcam would be piracy
     

    #71
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  12. Ledeni24
    Gingerbread Jun 22, 2019

    Ledeni24 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    It is a bit hard to say...but Gcam photo seems a bit over exposed...
     

    #72
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  13. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    3XM76 , Jun 22, 2019 :
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    Not really - that's how the light was after the rain and with cloud cover. But this is not the only sample I rely on when complaining about the shadow detail (or lack thereof) on stock camera. I've taken a few hundred shots in different situations with bit the stock and Gcam. On automatic and also selecting the metering point manually. Quite often the shadow areas end up as dark flat areas and grooves and such get overly emphasized by the darkening.

    The Gcam has no 'standard' output on the OP7 pro as it's extensively configurable and it's definitely possible take some really bad photos with it :) I don't think it's an absolute benchmark - but what eye sees is.

    In any case it's still okay to have strong contrast in the photos but the curve doesn't need to flat line in the dark end as it does now. As long as there's recoverable detail and shades left in the dark areas you can always tweak it later. But often the dark areas end up almost flat black leaving nothing for post editing.
     

    #73
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  14. Ledeni24
    Gingerbread Jun 22, 2019

    Ledeni24 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    OK...on this photo exposure looks ok to me...

    Lately...i have this mantra...it is all about consistency...

    I posted two photos taken with OP7pro on feedback...one taken with primary and one with telephoto...to me, the photos look like they been taken in two different light condition, but they were taken on the same time on the same place even on the about the same distance between camera and the object
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    #74
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  15. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    3XM76 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Yeah it's the same photo taken with the Gcam - earlier was just a crop that.

    But about the consistency - yeah the zoom lens produces a completely different image. Saturation, white balance and contrast all differ. For my eye the zoom lens produces more natural colors at times while also preserving shadow detail. Also the noise reduction seems to be different.
     

    #75
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  16. Ledeni24
    Gingerbread Jun 22, 2019

    Ledeni24 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    Jap...telephoto looks nice to me...i made some ok macro and closeup shots with telephoto...that is why I suggested to OnePlus to consider the macro mode for telephoto.
     

    #76
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  17. 3XM76
    Froyo Jun 22, 2019

    3XM76 , Jun 22, 2019 :
    As long as you know the limitations it's still possible get some nice shots: https://www.instagram.com/p/BzBOI9dhGkD/?igshid=4juwgecm0aqo

    Combination of stock main and zoom, pro and Gcam. Good enough for Instagram at least :)
     

    #77
    B1560530162014 and teduslie like this.
  18. Ledeni24
    Gingerbread Jun 22, 2019


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  19. spartan24fit
    Donut Jun 24, 2019


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  20. so95
    Eclair Jun 24, 2019

    so95 , Jun 24, 2019 :
    Survey completed.
    Differences between the photos are less obvious than in the first survey.
    Low light pictures are blurred on the outside.
     

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