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#PMChallenge Time to SOHO FAST-[UPDATE] Super Fast App Switching.....

  1. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 11, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 11, 2019 :
    Let's agree to disagree on this one.
     

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  2. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 11, 2019


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  3. ArcadiyKulchinskiy
    Froyo Feb 11, 2019

    ArcadiyKulchinskiy , Feb 11, 2019 :
    It would actually increase the productivity. Also, a button to lock the app (like it is in vanilla AOSP) would be great!
     

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  4. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 11, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 11, 2019 :
    How would you go about implementing the Lock App feature in my implementation?

    Cool feature but is it so widely used that we should add it to the proposal?
     

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  5. WeirdPictureFTW
    Cupcake Feb 11, 2019


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  6. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 11, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 11, 2019 :
    I am glad you liked the presentation. :)

    I also like the current way and that is why I designed my proposal to not affect the way Oxygen OS currently works. The current navigation mechanism is OK for casual use and pleasurable to the eye but for quick navigation it justs doesn't hold up. As i said in the thread I have grown tired of having to continously swipe to get to the 3rd, 4th,5h app an so on, when there is a faster way to get there.

    How about a little challenge? Try opening 15 apps and navigate to the 12th and then back to the 4th. Try a few times holding the device with two hands and then try doing it holding the device with only one hand and perhaps you will see where my frustration came from. You can do it using four, five or six apps, the fundamentals are the same... for every application switch there is a swipe action and then a touch action to select the app. I actually did a lot of prototyping before coming up with the proposal and if you are actually navigating to a specific app it becomes more difficult because apps have content and you need to monitor the preview to identify the app. The natural way to quickly identify our target are icons not previews.

    You are more than welcome to let me know what you think, this whole process is about coming together as a community and in the process enriching Oxygen OS to better meet our needs, so please tell me your thoughts on the subject.
     

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  7. gb_ironman
    Cupcake Feb 12, 2019

    gb_ironman , Feb 12, 2019 :
    You can count on my money as well :)

    best #PMChallenge idea so far
     

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  8. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 12, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 12, 2019 :
    thx @gb_ironman, let's make it a reality.
     

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  9. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 12, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 12, 2019 :
    Hello everyone,

    Thread Update:
    Added speed comparison use cases between current navigating method and proposed navigation method.

    Results are fascinating. In most cases the proposed feature reduces required user actions by 50% and in some cases up to 66%.

    Really fascinating stuff.

    Tell me what you think.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2019

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  10. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 13, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 13, 2019 :
    Hello everyone,

    Thread Update:

    Settings page animation has been updated to demonstrate the Auto Resize option.

    Check it out.
     

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  11. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 13, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 13, 2019 :
    Hello everyone,

    Thread Update:
    Added Animation and Fluidity paragraph.
    Describes the importance of animations in a fluid UX and the way the proposed feature makes use of them.

    Check it out and let me know what you think.

    Thanks.
     

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  12. gb_ironman
    Cupcake Feb 14, 2019

    gb_ironman , Feb 14, 2019 :
    nice work @grouperb
    this proposal keeps getting better
    never knew I could select apps from the side previews
     

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  13. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 14, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 14, 2019 :
    Thank you very much.
    I did not know it either and discovered it while researching for this proposal.
     

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  14. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 15, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 15, 2019 :
    Hello everyone,

    Thread Update:
    Added paragraph about an exciting feature called Application Pins
    Users can now use the "go to last used app" gesture to switch between more than two apps.
    Animation added to demonstrate how it works.

    Check it out and let me know what you think.

    Thanks.
     

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  15. gb_ironman
    Cupcake Feb 17, 2019

    gb_ironman , Feb 17, 2019 :
    That's the cherry on the cake.

    Should be a proposal on its own but fits quite nicely with your main proposal so I'll have the set thank you very much.

    Nicely done.
     

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  16. Shapeshift3r
    Eclair Feb 18, 2019

    Shapeshift3r , Feb 18, 2019 :
    So basically you want to implement a mini recent app drawer on the recents overlay.
    Recentception :confused:
    Don't get me wrong but how difficult is it to go back to home and swipe for shelf.
    I loved the presentation and can only appreciate the effort you've put into this.
    But I don't keep so many apps open at the same time :)
     

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  17. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 18, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 18, 2019 :
    Thanks @Shapeshift3r for enjoying the presentation.
    The mini menu is not for recent apps is for actively running apps as shown on the Recent Items Page. When a user swipes up to close an app then this app does not appear on the menu.

    Well basically the problem is speed and therefore efficiency.
    1.Swipe Up to go to Home.
    2.swipe again for shelf.
    3.scroll for app.
    4. touch to select app.

    With most OS going for the clean look we find ourselves loosing out on functionality just for the sake of design trends.

    The question is can the current process of multitasking become faster and thus more efficient? My proposal offers an attempt at answering this question.

    I started thinking about this problem because I find going from my active open app to my 3rd last opened app to be a bit inefficient. Why do I have to swipe when I could have a small menu that gives me the option to navigate faster?

    Currently we have to go from A to B to C, when we could go from A to C directly.

    What do you think?

    P.S
    Did you like the idea of Application Pinning? If not please check it out. Your opinion will be very useful.
     

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  18. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 19, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 19, 2019 :
    Thank you @dhiraj, sorry for missing your comment.
    I will have a look at it pronto.
     

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  19. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 20, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 20, 2019 :
    ground to control to major tom

    come on community members,it's time for brainstorming.

    :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019

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  20. grouperb
    Froyo Feb 23, 2019

    grouperb , Feb 23, 2019 :
    Spent two days with the Huawei Mate 20 Pro and the Galaxy S9.

    My interest was to see how they tackle multitasking.

    The Mate 20 Pro has similar gestures to the OP6T whereas the S9 keeps the familiar left center right orientation of Left=Recent Apps, Center=Home, Right=Back, there is also an option to have these gestures reversed.

    As far as the thread is concerned the Huawei Mate 20 Pro has really slow preview scrolling speed and switching between apps is frustrating to say the least. The scrolling anination feels like 2x slower than my OP6T. It is as if someone has put one the brakes on everything concerning multitasking. It was a surprise to me because I expected Huawei to have done a better job at it.

    The Galaxy S9 has very similar preview scrolling speed to the OP6T, the one problem I have with it is that you can only use it accurately with only one specific hand because the placement of the Recent Apps page gesture can only be bottom left swipe up or bottom right swipe up, so switching hands forces you to perform finger gymnastics and does not always guarantee a sucessful gesture to be performed. Another issue with S9 is when the Recent Apps page opens, it immediately moves the main preview to the next/last app so users only have to touch to move between apps, this is a good idea but the page starts with the active app then an animation that switches to the last app and it is painfully slow. To help users navigate through the previews without scrolling one can keep performing the Recent Apps gesture and it scrolls through the app previews but that animation is also realy slow.

    It is clear that both these high-end devices have serious issues with multitasking and huge potential for optimization in order to provide an efficient UX that offers increased productivity to the user.

    Can it be that these two UX put more weight on the beauty of their slow animations compared to the productivity their UX provides?

    Back in my UNI days I had a lecturer who said a clever software engineer puts a loop in their programming to slow down the system and when their boss complained about the speed then they would remove it and do nothing for 6 months pretending to be fixing the problem(he was a good teacher too, lol). I hope that Huawei and Samsung don't use similar tactics and in 6 months time they speed up the animations and pretend to have updated their multitasking.

    If any community members have access to any of these two devices it would be great if they could share their opinion on the multitasking UX.

    Looking forward to your replies.
     

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