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Privacy Tips for the OnePlus 7 Pro

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Do you have concerns about your privacy when you go online?

  1. Yes, Very Much So

    33 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Yes Somewhat

    20 vote(s)
    30.3%
  3. I'm Neutral About it

    7 vote(s)
    10.6%
  4. Not at All

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  5. What's a Privacy?

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  1. Texasaggie1
    US Brand Ambassador Sep 12, 2019

    Texasaggie1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    Every keyboard comes with the same warning. That's a normal warning
     

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  2. shapz
    Froyo Sep 12, 2019

    shapz , Sep 12, 2019 :
    Nothing is truly "free" nowadays either!
     

    #22
    buntycubal, otto2 and G_plusone like this.
  3. RedPaiint
    Cupcake Sep 12, 2019

    RedPaiint , Sep 12, 2019 :
    so go with Apple?
     

    #23
    Texasaggie1 likes this.
  4. luxuskamel
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    luxuskamel , Sep 12, 2019 :
    There are VPN clients that can toggle this. But it does work, I watched YouTube on a flixbus :p which wouldnt be possible directly
     

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  5. Bobbie63
    Marshmallow Sep 12, 2019

    Bobbie63 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    It will work, the traffic between your phone and the router will be VPN but the traffic between YouTube and your router isn't VPN I'm afraid. You can check by doing a IP leak test. I guess your home IP address will be shown.

    You'll need a VPN client set up in the router from some kind of external VPN service
     

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  6. luxuskamel
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    luxuskamel , Sep 12, 2019 :
    Ah I understand. I personality don't fear that exposure of my home IP but more my phone being exposed in public networks
     

    #26
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  7. Bobbie63
    Marshmallow Sep 12, 2019

    Bobbie63 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    Ah ok. That's different now I understand:)
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019

    #27
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  8. Starcommander
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019


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  9. J1545626404393
    Donut Sep 12, 2019


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  10. J1545626404393
    Donut Sep 12, 2019


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  11. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    PS: in this article when I use the word "free" think of "free speech" NOT "free beer"

    This has to be by far the worst thread I've ever seen. Not only did you fail at increasing privacy, you even reduced it

    Duckduckgo's upstream source is not entirely free. There is no way to validate that the server does what it says
    "But the CEO said....."
    Nonsense. Even google can say that they don't track you. Would you believe them? If duckduckgo uses proprietary software the claim that duckduckgo doesn't track is dubious at best

    There are much better, free as in freedom alternatives like https://searx.me that are actually proven to protect your privacy

    Opera browser - another nonfree browser owned by a Chinese company
    Opera is an advertising company that sells your data to third parties when you use the VPN https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4fuyxf/operas_new_baked_in_vpn_is_not_a_good_solution/

    Opera has the same webrtc bug as chrome that leaks data outside their VPN

    Brave browser is another shady browser. Recently I've heard they've started paying users out in crypto
    Here's the problem:
    The value of crypto or any currency for the matter is determined by scarcity
    Let is say the government prints a $100 bill for every citizen and gives it to every citizen. Inflation would go through the roof and people would actually become poorer as prices would increase

    The same issue affects brave. There seems to be no set limit on how much money the system can have at once. Investing in such a currency is stupid

    The other problem:
    Brave tells websites you're using brave
    Brave doesn't block Facebook and other social media tracking for "user convenience"
    https://hub.packtpub.com/brave-priv...y-inject-headers-in-http-requests-hackernews/

    Swiftkey keyboard is a privacy nightmare: https://www.xda-developers.com/swiftkey-and-google-keyboard-ever-heard-of-user-privacy/
    Swiftkey stores your dictionary unencrypted and shows it to other users "by accident": https://zeltser.com/third-party-keyboards-security/

    Facebook and privacy? Nonsense: https://stallman.org/facebook.html

    PIA is known for dodging questions about their company unless they come under pressure from the community
    PIA says RSA4096 is secure while EC-521 is apparently "weakened by the NSA" even when it has been repeatedly shown that RSA should just be avoided on newer implementations especially with newer devices that have an hwrng
    PIA still recommends it's users to use sha1 https://torrentfreak.com/review/private-internet-access-reviews/ even when it was declared to be broken in 2011 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019

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  12. G.Reagon
    Froyo Sep 12, 2019

    G.Reagon , Sep 12, 2019 :
    this day and age, everyone data mines your info, including Apple. The question is, are they as loose with your data as Google seems to be? I obviously don't know the answer to that but I don't see Apple in the national news on a regular basis due to another allogation of mishandling users data. One main reason why I can't believe people still use Facebook.
     

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  13. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    In terms of privacy google at least encrypts the data they backup from your phone

    Apple's encryption is broken because apple forcefully uploads your files to their cloud without encryption

    Further, Google's android uses security by isolation and compartmentalization which is a proven security model. Apple uses security by obscurity

    Also see https://stallman.org/apple.html
     

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  14. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    This is still a very good idea. The security provided by WiFi is challengeable at best. Securing the connection to the router with a VPN is a very good idea if you don't trust WiFi even if a password has been set
     

    #34
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  15. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    You know there's a lot of keyboards that don't

    AOSP keyboard doesn't

    So doesn't this one http://anysoftkeyboard.github.io/

    But you recommend neither. You instead tell your users to surrender their privacy and freedom to swiftkey
     

    #35
    Texasaggie1 likes this.
  16. Sridhar Ananthanarayanan
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    Sridhar Ananthanarayanan , Sep 12, 2019 :
    I value my privacy, as much as most privacy conscious people do. But unlike some, I am willing to use a service (read Google) to make information available to me intelligently. I have made my point here:

    https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/privacy-is-it-overrated.1091780/#post-20745807

    Coming to your points now.

    1. I use Google search for the most part. Where I need to do something privately, I use Firefox Focus (my default web browser) with all tracking disabled and using DuckDuckGo search engine. I recently tried the DuckDuckGo browser, and I liked it too.

    2. Ever since Opera was sold to some unknown Chinese company (also a reason behind the birth of Vivaldi browser which is now available on Android and Windows), I have my privacy concerns w.r.t it.

    3. I use PIA VPN 24x7 and it is very good. I would have preferred ExpressVPN (based on several reviews), but settled with PIA due to cost considerations. Not that PIA is any bad. PIA is very good too.

    4. I use dns.adguard.com as my private DNS. This removes all ads system-wide for me. On my rooted devices, I use AdAway.

    5. Nothing replaces Google apps for me. Google Photos has become an irreplaceable component. And Google apps like Gmail, Google Drive, Keep, etc. are excellent apps and there is no way I'm replacing them.

    6. I don't trust Facebook. That app uses battery in the background even of OOS is set to "restrict" it under battery settings. I don't know if Facebook has paid OnePlus to whitelist it. I use Hermit to manage the "lite" apps for me. I could have used any browser for this purpose, but Hermit comes with it's own advantages, so check it out here:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chimbori.hermitcrab

    Here are some additional steps I take to secure my privacy.

    7. I use AFWall+ on my rooted devices to selectively allow apps to communicate over the network. It is extremely useful because you can allow apps to communicate over the local network (LAN) but not over the internet. Very useful for media streaming apps if you have your own local server. For non-rooted devices, I use NetGuard.

    8. I disable data usage under OOS settings for all apps that do not need to access internet for core functionality. This allows me to try any app from any source I want, because my data does not leave my device

    9. I use the "Restrict" battery feature for apps that I don't use frequently and which I don't want to be running in the background.


    I own devices running on multiple platforms, so Google and Microsoft apps are always my first preference because they allow me to sync my work and continue on one device from where I left on another device.

    But why did you recommend Swiftkey keyboard over GBoard? Here I have something to say about keyboards too:

    https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/keyboard-the-real-villain.1065250/
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019

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  17. Sridhar Ananthanarayanan
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    Sridhar Ananthanarayanan , Sep 12, 2019 :
    That is a standard warning from the Operating System.

    And why should anyone trust anysoftkeyboard? Just because it is open source?
     

    #37
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  18. anupritaisno1
    KitKat Sep 12, 2019

    anupritaisno1 , Sep 12, 2019 :
    Anysoftkeyboard is not only open source, it is free software. It also doesn't ask for internet access

    Also your arguments about free software being less trustworthy are baseless. This is because free software can be audited. Can you prove that google keyboard hasn't been backdoored?

    Notice how you used the word open source while I used the words "free" and "nonfree" but I guess that's something you'll never understand

    And this argument of yours:
    "I don't care about privacy and so shouldn't you"
    That's like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say and so shouldn't others

    Seriously. Go take your open source hatred to a place where people like to surrender their freedom to some higher up. This is an ethics issue as well as a privacy issue
     

    #38
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  19. Sridhar Ananthanarayanan
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    Sridhar Ananthanarayanan , Sep 12, 2019 :
    The value of any item is determined by demand and supply. So a scarce item of any significance can command a higher price by virtue of being scarce.

    How will inflation go through the roof just because the government prints and distributes a $100 bill to all it's citizens? Sure value of your currency may go down slightly (inflation), but this alone cannot be a reason for inflation to keep rising.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019

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  20. Sridhar Ananthanarayanan
    Lollipop Sep 12, 2019

    Sridhar Ananthanarayanan , Sep 12, 2019 :
    I am more careful with the free stuff. Because nothing is free in this world. You always have to pay in some form.

    Open source software can be audited. I like that part. But is there anyone doing this noble work? And how trustworthy and reliable is that entity?

    No where have I said that I don't care about privacy nor did I ask others to do so. Can't help if you are imagining things.

    And there is no hatred for open source materials. Just that they are yet to earn my trust.
     

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