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Why Sexism Towards Men Does Not Exist!

  1. alonso23
    Gingerbread Aug 12, 2014

    alonso23 , Aug 12, 2014 :
    With all the heat from the "Ladies First" contest I have seen many posts talking about sexism and putting different scenarios where men would be in place of women it wouldn't be sexism towards men. I am going to try to explain why there is no such a thing as sexism against men. The same way "Reverse Racism" does not exist "Sexism Towards Men" doesn't exist either. I got this from a page that tries to explain "Reverse Racism" and I'm just gonna apply it to sexism.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/07/15/884649/-Why-there-s-no-such-thing-as-Reverse-Racism#

    First, some definitions:
    Prejudice is an irrational feeling of dislike for a person or group of persons, usually based on stereotype. Virtually everyone feels some sort of prejudice, whether it's for an ethnic group, or for a religious group, or for a type of person like blondes or fat people or tall people [or women]. The important thing is they just don't like them -- in short, prejudice is a feeling, a belief. You can be prejudiced, but still be a fair person if you're careful not to act on your irrational dislike.
    Discrimination takes place the moment a person acts on prejudice. This describes those moments when one individual decides not to give another individual a job because of, say, their race or their religious orientation. Or even because of their looks (there's a lot of hiring discrimination against "unattractive" women, for example). You can discriminate, individually, against any person or group [or sex/gender], if you're in a position of power over the person you want to discriminate against. White people can discriminate against black people, and black people can discriminate against white people if, for example, one is the interviewer and the other is the person being interviewed.
    Sexism, however, describes patterns of discrimination that are institutionalized as "normal" throughout an entire culture. It's based on an ideological belief that one "gender/sex" is somehow better than another "gender/sex". It's not one person discriminating at this point, but a whole population operating in a social structure that actually makes it difficult for a person not to discriminate.
    A clear example of a sexist society would be the current one we live in. Because of the society that we live in the institutions and social structures are designed to favor Males. Women still earn 85 cents on the dollar for doing the same job as men. Women still make up far less than their percentage of the population in political representation and high level careers. Women are objectified and sexualised in the media. We live in a sexist society which has changed dramatically but still has lots of things to change.
    "Sexist Socienty Towards Men" would only describe a society in which all the rules and roles were turned upside down. That has not happened in the U.S. or anywhere and it's never gonna happen unless we find a way to grow babies inside men or in a lab. Men who complain about "Sexism Towards Men" are actually complaining about being denied their privileges, rather than being denied their rights. They feel entitled to be hired and not to be discriminated against, even though the norm is Men discriminating against Women. If, in a rare instance, a Women employer discriminates against a Men job applicant, that's not "reverse" anything -- it's simple discrimination. It's to be condemned on principle, but it's not evidence of some systematic program by which Males are being deprived of their rights.
    There it is guys hopefully this helps understand why sexism towards men is not possible.
     

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  2. Darksifu
    Gingerbread Aug 12, 2014

    Darksifu , Aug 12, 2014 :
    That is not sexism. Sexism do not have too be global or grouped, it can be a woman as well as a man.
    Sexism it discrimination based on sex.
     

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  3. mmsen
    Honeycomb Aug 12, 2014

    mmsen , Aug 12, 2014 :
    You have a poor grasp of language and life if you believe that sexism against men does not exist.

    What is gender judicial bias if not sexism?
     

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  4. Darksifu
    Gingerbread Aug 12, 2014

    Darksifu , Aug 12, 2014 :
    Well written!
     

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  5. devilishcause
    Eclair Aug 12, 2014

    devilishcause , Aug 12, 2014 :
    Sexism is same as gender discrimination. Both gender can face it but in today's world women bare the brunt of it
     

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  6. mmsen
    Honeycomb Aug 13, 2014

    mmsen , Aug 13, 2014 :
    How can you make that argument when the educational system in most Western nations is now skewed towards women. The judicial system is skewed towards women. Media in most Western nations is heavily slanted towards women. Men are more likely to die a violent death. Men suffer higher rates of unemployment in northern Europe and north America. Men are more likely to die at work. In fact, the life expectancy of men in most countries is lower than women.

    So what/where is this hardship that you speak of?
     

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  7. XmXmaks
    KitKat Aug 13, 2014

    XmXmaks , Aug 13, 2014 :
    Thank you, thread is closed. Done and done. Uh people throwing freaking definitions to claim something doesn't exist when it does. Earth: the substance of the land surface; soil.
    "a layer of earth".
     

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  8. mrcs_jolly
    Honeycomb Aug 13, 2014

    mrcs_jolly , Aug 13, 2014 :
    U tried hard to make sense...i commend ur efforts. Still dont understand
     

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  9. Darksifu
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    Darksifu , Aug 13, 2014 :
    I say men suffer a great deal too! As mentioned health and age of death plus career.
     

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  10. adamcdx
    Ice Cream Sandwich Aug 13, 2014

    adamcdx , Aug 13, 2014 :
    Sexism can be applied to both male and female, and both male and female can be viewed as sexual symbols in the media. Tell me when haven't you seen the media favor a man who has abs and a amazing body.
     

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  11. alonso23
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    alonso23 , Aug 13, 2014 :
    Women have been systematically oppressed throughout history (think not able to vote, not able to speak up, etc, etc). Even today women are systematically discriminated against "Women still earn 85 cents on the dollar for doing the same job as men. Women still make up far less than their percentage of the population in political representation and high level careers. Women are objectified and sexualised in the media."
     

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  12. alonso23
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    alonso23 , Aug 13, 2014 :
    All I tried to say is women are systematically oppressed in society while men are not.
     

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  13. Darksifu
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    Darksifu , Aug 13, 2014 :
    Same goes for men, but in different sectors of work, and women do it more obscure than the more "performing" male version :)
     

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  14. alonso23
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    alonso23 , Aug 13, 2014 :
    The society that we live in systematically has oppressed women throughout history and it still does today.
     

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  15. mmsen
    Honeycomb Aug 13, 2014

    mmsen , Aug 13, 2014 :
    Everyone is systematically 'oppressed' that is how 'order' is maintained by the upper reaches of any society.

    To claim that women are treated worse is dishonest, or stupid.
     

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  16. gmgriffin
    Jelly Bean Aug 13, 2014

    gmgriffin , Aug 13, 2014 :
    You tell em.
     

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  17. gmgriffin
    Jelly Bean Aug 13, 2014

    gmgriffin , Aug 13, 2014 :
    I have certainly been sexist with a man.
     

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  18. alonso23
    Gingerbread Aug 13, 2014

    alonso23 , Aug 13, 2014 :
    let me ask you: would you say the same thing about 10,20,50,100 years ago? everyone has been systematically oppressed equally throughout history?
     

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  19. mmsen
    Honeycomb Aug 13, 2014

    mmsen , Aug 13, 2014 :

    Equally? No.

    But are you now going to argue that a woman of European descent had it worse than a man of African or native American descent in north America circa 1800?
     

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  20. gmgriffin
    Jelly Bean Aug 13, 2014

    gmgriffin , Aug 13, 2014 :
    You seemed be making some progress right up till you used the word equally.
    That is so subjective.
     

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